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Old Jul 12, 2011, 04:21 AM // 04:21   #21
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I would be okay with guildwars if they said we are now going to charge $20 each year to keep the server up. As long as that price is low and its only once a year. It should help the company a lot more than just costume packs. The reason why i would pay this is because i love guildwars and i would love to keep playing it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Guild wars is a great game but no game is worth paying money over time in order to play. If anet did this, they would certainly lose my business when GW2 comes around, and I am extremely excited for GW2.
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Old Jul 12, 2011, 11:13 PM // 23:13   #22
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A plush Yakkington big enough to use as a pillow? Oh yes, you will have my credit card details...
I'd like to get plushies of all the miniatures.
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Old Jul 13, 2011, 06:55 PM // 18:55   #23
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it really is a shame they don't release more bonus pack type material on the store. it doesn't offer an advantage and paying for it is exactly the same as buying an expansion/standalone game etc. on a smaller scale. it seems they use these cookie cutter releases like WiK and WoC(while still cool that they release stuff) just is kinda the same ole same ole. At least the BMP had some flair for storytelling. If they really wanted to bridge the 250 year time frame between GW1 and GW2 they would let us play as characters 150 years forward and have it tell a story. I would pay for that.

Content beats out costumes in my book any day. What do I know though? I bought the BMP when it was limited release and the costumes just aren't my cup of tea. I think I am not the demographic they are going for. I have always been into earning my gear rather than paying for it. It feels more substantial to me.
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 08:00 PM // 20:00   #24
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I honestly can't gain an understanding as to why they abandoned any endeavor to create new chapters for GW1 while GW2 is in such a long long development phase?

The game format is still viable and comparable to any game on the market now. Seems like they cut themselves out of an awful lot of profit by dropping it after EotN.
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 08:41 PM // 20:41   #25
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@ruksak-I will not purchase GW2 if WoC continues so nefariously introducing lame content that revolves around giving them more money.

How in the hell is ANet doing this? Costumes? Costumes give no advantage if that's what you're talking about. Players buy what is appealing to them, while ANet tries to find ways that do this. You're raging on about how costumes and "lame content" ( Shame on you if you don't like it) are giving ANet money. For God sake, you sound like you're raging about ANet actually trying to make money. With the things they've done for us such as making GW Free 2 Play and giving us all this content for free, I believe you owe them some damn respect. If you don't like it, get out, and go play WoW. Enjoy D3...
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 09:16 PM // 21:16   #26
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@ruksak-I will not purchase GW2 if WoC continues so nefariously introducing lame content that revolves around giving them more money.

How in the hell is ANet doing this? Costumes? Costumes give no advantage if that's what you're talking about. Players buy what is appealing to them, while ANet tries to find ways that do this. You're raging on about how costumes and "lame content" ( Shame on you if you don't like it) are giving ANet money. For God sake, you sound like you're raging about ANet actually trying to make money. With the things they've done for us such as making GW Free 2 Play and giving us all this content for free, I believe you owe them some damn respect. If you don't like it, get out, and go play WoW. Enjoy D3...
You accuse me of "rage" and set forth upon an angst ridden rant chocked full 'o' rage. Smooth....

Firstly...."Making GW free". I wouldn't have purchased the game if it wasn't free (to play online) to begin with.

Second.....Costumes. If you and others wish to play dress-up dolls, Toys 'R' Us has a sale on Barbie dolls this week, I suggest you take full advantage of this sale and fill your dolly dress up needs via this sale.

My only desire would be new playable content. Not the regurgitated WoC shit I had barfed upon my keyboard most recently. I mean a store release of a new chapter.

I'm not angry at Anet for not having sought to develop salable content. Disappointed, not angry. I have $$$money$$$ but they won't be getting it. Because they have nothing for sale that interests me.
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #27
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Relating back to the OP, i agree with what Arghore's initial intent was; a different variety of 'flavour' items outside of costumes. The same concept, just something that wasn't a costume.

There are a few simple ways to make other items to be simply flashy.

For example, they COULD have cheap minipets. They would have to be designed so that
A) They can not be dedicated to the hall of monuments
B) They can not be traded to other players

This way, it's purely for your enjoyment. You can't sell it to other players for big money, and you can't get the additional benefits of paying for your Hall of Monuments. No in-game advantage, just 'flashy' items. Literally, the only 'advantage' buying a minipet from the store provides is the one extra ally that affects Leadership when you use chants/shouts... which you can get with any other miniature, summon, asura summon skill, pet, or NPC.

The same concept could essentially be applied to weapons and such, however I personally do not think weapons should be sold. Ofcourse we all know skin plays no role in how good a weapon is, and thus provides no additional benefit. I'm just personally cheap and would not want to purchase said weapons, but it is an alternative. The weapons could of course:

A) Not be dedicated to the Hall of Monuments
B) Not be traded to other players
C) Be Inscribable and come with no mods

What makes C) something I think important is that, unlike the GotY, these couldn't be recreated infinitly for your heros. You'd still have to work just as hard to mod your weapons as everyone else, you just get one additional flashy skin. GotY is technically worse for this because 20% enchanting, +Energy, etc. weapons can just be created on the fly.


If you look at costumes, this is essentially what they are:

A) Non-tradeable
B) Infinitly Creatable
C) Provide No Additional Advantage
D) Appearence-Changing
E) Can not be added to HoM
F) Unnecessary to play the game

So really, anything that follows this rough model is fine. Weapons can follow this model. Minipets can follow this model. More costumes can follow this model. Tonics can follow this model. These are pretty much the items I can see being unnecessary but still being worth the (appropriate) money for.

Now, in relations to new content. Of course everyone would buy new content. That makes sense.

However, by the time GW:Beyond is completed {this means WiK, HotN, WoC, whatever they do in Elona, and ALL the other little things related to it such as the secret new Halloween/Mad King content} you've practically gotten a free campaign. All you're missing really is a new continent, however because of the concept of Guild Wars: Beyond it makes perfect sense to have these events occuring in places we've already been too.
You are still getting:
New weapons {Oppressors, Imperial, technical Purity but we won't count those, and whatever they do with Nightfall assuming they do another weapon set}
New Missions (Now, when I say missions I do mean the primary quests. If you look at WiK, each one of those quests was essentially a mission. They were mission length, mission quality, and more mission storied than your usual quest. The same applies to HotN on a much lesser scale, and we can't say anything for WoC yet because it is only 1/3 released. Now, I havent finished WoC:P1 yet, but after the cleansing quests I do believe there are more mission-style quests? I could be mistaken though)
New secondary quests (things like bounties, these cleansing quests for WoC in both HM and NM)
New characters (Salma [im not actually sure if she is new or not...], the new Ministers of Purity/Initiates/Imperial Guard, Miku, etc.)
New items (WiK came in the ways of Miniatures, Green weapons {blahblah i know they're weapons}, War Supplies, Royal Gifts and everything new inside of those. Give WoC a chance to introduce these items as well)
New Hero[es] (We got Keiran. I don't know if WoC is to have more heroes, but its not impossible unless ANet has stated otherwise)
New Storylines (pretty self explainatory, however this takes a considerable amount of time to create, process, and perfect)
New Enemies (whats a game without new enemies? They're more challanging than your standard guild wars foes, many in WiK had new skins, WoC has the potential for making more foes with new skins once the afflicted are done with)

For the price of what ever you pay your internet service provider, because Arenanet is providing this for free. They should be able to provide a few unnecessary, unadvantageous items for purchase to those who are willing to pay while they are providing as much free content that they are.

TL;DR: /Signed with what the OP was trying to state in the first few lines.

Edit: ruksak, Costumes are usually cheaper when you buy the full set than barbie dolls would be when you consider taxes, gas, and the barbies themselves

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Old Jul 17, 2011, 10:13 PM // 22:13   #28
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ruksak, Costumes are usually cheaper when you buy the full set than barbie dolls would be when you consider taxes, gas, and the barbies themselves

lol...So glad to see someone with a sense of humor. Of course I'm not really attempting to be mean, just goofin around with y'all. Whatever peels your banana....
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Old Jul 17, 2011, 11:24 PM // 23:24   #29
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A plush Yakkington big enough to use as a pillow? Oh yes, you will have my credit card details...

as I collect plushies...ANY plush gw related mini type would be in my cart quicker than I can type in my cc number!!
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Old Jul 18, 2011, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #30
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This whole thread makes me sad

I like the costumes ....the idea of having something fun for RP ...since some people really do enjoy that aspect is cool by me

and I take offense to the Barbie comment... *hrmph* :P

I think patience is to be had....if people can still wait for Duke Nukem..you can wait on GW 2

Yes, WoC thus far has been somewhat disappointing...but c'est la vie.
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Old Jul 18, 2011, 08:01 AM // 08:01   #31
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This whole thread makes me sad

I like the costumes ....the idea of having something fun for RP ...since some people really do enjoy that aspect is cool by me

and I take offense to the Barbie comment... *hrmph* :P
You've got to be kidding me. Did god send you from heaven just to prove my point? This has got to be one of the top ten most hilarious coincidences of my lifetime. Take me now Satan....I am ready to die.

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Old Jul 18, 2011, 09:04 AM // 09:04   #32
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Got to agree with ruksak here.
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Old Jul 18, 2011, 03:09 PM // 15:09   #33
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Got to agree with ruksak here.
Weird, because if i read between the lines i think ruksak agrees with me to some extend he just realy doesn't like microtransactions (aka being nickle and dimed), but he would mostlikely pay for things given they are worth buying to him ...

@cosyfiep, nowhere did I say the items had to be solely ingame items, mainly that they would have to be related to the content being released (but even there i wouldn't considder myself a hardliner). So, if you were to suggest that Anet should release a plushy then that would be fine with me added them to the OP

@MalibuBarbie, don't be sad nowhere did i say costumes have to go away, the costumes are fine the way they are, but i already have multiple costumes, and no real need for more of them. Hence i was looking for more options to buy in the IGS related to GW:B content released; f/e a undedicatable mini Afflicted Ritualist, and say the Afflicted weapon set (the old set) customized and either upgradable or not. It would be items that give no benefit but are content theme related; so 'just' another option to send anet money next to the costumes, as a 'reward' for the free content; stimulating them to make more


I added some of the idea's in the OP ...

*Seeing various people had valuable opinions about this idea i would like to invite you to read over this idea: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/p...t10487262.html and give your opinions

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Old Jul 18, 2011, 07:46 PM // 19:46   #34
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Weird, because if i read between the lines i think ruksak agrees with me to some extend he just realy doesn't like microtransactions (aka being nickle and dimed), but he would mostlikely pay for things given they are worth buying to him ...
I'm fine with the ideas you've expressed but mostly impartial to the whole matter. I was just interjecting what I would think to be obvious...that is myself and many others (most of whom have long since moved on entirely) have money we would have been spending over the last three years, handing it over to Anet, if they had salable content available in stores.

It seems curious that they didn't divide their forces or accrue additional help to both develop GW's successor (GW2) as well as release a few new expansions/chapters to the existing game.
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